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gizmo_firemarshal
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Posted - 23/05/2011 :  03:26:16  Show Profile  Click to see gizmo_firemarshal's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
alot of the site and production cars are either petrol or crysel . but why not swithc to a electric system, there would be some logistial changes like would need 2 batterys for each car one in the car in use then one on charge etc , i worked out there must be about 25 or more golf buggies in use at a festival on average , and with the cost of petrol going up wouldn't it be more cost effective to switch to electric . also switching from crysel 4x4 to electric would also be useful but would require some indepth researh as the responce teams use those type of cars , i think it would only take one generator to charge all the battreys needed for the cars and it would help cut the carbon footprint from the festivals

T.BC
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Posted - 23/05/2011 :  19:17:55  Show Profile  Visit T.BC's Homepage  Click to see T.BC's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Perhaps only security and any other festival staff that require rapid response should still use cars. But all in all a good idea
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Jin
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Posted - 08/06/2011 :  10:56:48  Show Profile  Visit Jin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't be sustainable as it would still require fuels to be burnt to generate electricity. It would be far more effective to provide bicycles for the non-essential services. Would be perfect for Latitude and Big Chill with a manageable site size.
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gizmo_firemarshal
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Posted - 09/06/2011 :  01:14:23  Show Profile  Click to see gizmo_firemarshal's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
to charge a battry to run an electic car produces a smaller carbon footprint than using petrol golf buggies , also you can put bio crysil in the genertator that also helps reduce the carbon footprint as it turns a waste product of the catering industry and turns it into a fuel course
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Jin
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Posted - 09/06/2011 :  01:46:02  Show Profile  Visit Jin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All true and when it is combined with the low site speed limits I am sure it would be far more efficient and cleaner to use an electric powered vehicle.
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GaV
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Posted - 19/06/2011 :  18:01:01  Show Profile  Visit GaV's Homepage  Click to see GaV's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You could potentially generate the electricity through environmentally sustainable methods, solar and wind power to make it carbon neutral and I would think for a lot of the tasks the golf buggy would be perfect. The issue is if it gets very wet and boggy and then the 4*4 comes into itself. They had quite a number of the golf buggies at the Isle of Wight, though they did appear to be petrol rather than electric. The other option I would say is to bring hybrid 4*4's onto site instead, or hydrogen fuelled vehicles which are now becoming increasingly viable alternatives.
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gizmo_firemarshal
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Posted - 20/06/2011 :  01:08:43  Show Profile  Click to see gizmo_firemarshal's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
also the golf buggys tend not to get stuck that oftern because there is generally trackway at most large festivals on the routes the buggies use the most so it could still be very sustainable
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harrietjn
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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  01:10:09  Show Profile  Visit harrietjn's Homepage  Send harrietjn an AOL message  Reply with Quote
you also have to consider that a buggy is not big enough to move most items ( eg piles of rubbish or wheelie bins) and is useless for deploying staff. Also remember that the buggies have to be transported to site wheras the landrovers are already on site as they have delivered bins etc
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